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  • Defining Moments From The First Kleeb-Johanns Debate

    by: Kyle Michaelis

    Fri Jun 06, 2008 at 00:20:30 AM CDT


    To the dismay of many Nebraskans, the webcast of Thursday's debate between Senate candidates Mike Johanns and Scott Kleeb ended up not being available live due to technical difficulties.  But, 10/11 News has now posted the video of the debate on it's website, and it's definitely worth a viewing.

    Unfortunately, having attended the debate personally, I have to point out that a few key moments are left out of 10/11's video coverage.  For those, you'd have to listen to the full audio of the 100-minute debate provided by the Lincoln Journal-Star.

    However, the video does give a better sense of how these candidates actually stack up against one another upon their initial meeting.  So, for those readers who only have so much time to dedicate to their online political consumption, I'm highlighting the most important of these omissions in my notes on the debate.

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    For starters, both candidates appeared comfortable and generally well-prepared.  Although the debate was understandably congenial, as it was the first time Kleeb and Johanns had met each other and they were speaking in front of a hall filled with sixteen and seventeen year-olds, there were enough lines drawn to get a pretty good sense of where this campaign is headed from here.

    It has to be by design that Kleeb is echoing John F. Kennedy.  Kleeb talks about change in the same terms Kennedy once talked about going to the moon, and his call for "new pioneers" is lifted right out of Kennedy's "new frontier."  But, Kleeb isn't shying away from this fact, making several references to Kennedy by name.  Kleeb praised Kennedy's handling of the Cuban missile crisis and his creation of the Peace Corps as direct contrasts to what we've seen of the Bush Administration.

    I was proud of Kleeb for being willing to go after the Bush Administration.  Holding up Scott McClellan's new book as a testament to "how fundamentally broken the system is in Washington," Kleeb even went so far as admitting "we were lied to" by the Bush Administration.  He also went after Bush for vetoing the Farm Bill (because of its investments in growing the ethanol industry) and for overseeing the decimation of the federal government's balanced budget.

    It was a bit of an ironic moment when Kleeb talked about the 2000 budget surplus with which then-presidential candidate Al Gore once hoped to shore up Social Security's long-term solvency.  Kleeb asked the audience, "Do you remember that?" - forgetting that these students probably did not since they were only eight years-old at the time.

    Where Kleeb wasn't strong enough was tying Johanns directly to the Bush Administration policies he criticized.  It opened the door to Johanns' most memorable line of the debate, accusing Kleeb of "want[ing] to run against an administration that will be past history" when the next Senator takes office.  There's a certain truth to that which undermines Kleeb's entire message unless he's going to explain why Bush's failures are directly relevant to this race through Johanns' own record.

    Kyle Michaelis :: Defining Moments From The First Kleeb-Johanns Debate
    It's clear that Johanns' main approach towards Kleeb is going to be outright dismissiveness.  That's not going to change until the Kleeb campaign forces him into an offensive or defensive posture.

    The one moment of clear hesitation by Kleeb came when he was asked why he was "better qualified" than his opponent.  It wasn't a question Kleeb seemed ready to answer.  That left an opening for Johanns to respond that this issue of qualifications was "the essence of the decision that people have to make."  Johanns also contrasted his experience with Kleeb's throughout the debate, emphasizing that - for him - these issues weren't just a matter of theory.

    The generous interpretation of Johanns' consistent references to speaking "in theory" would be as an allusion to Kleeb's background in education, dismissing his years in the classroom and his current position at Hastings College.  But, the real suggestion I took from  Johanns' remarks was that Kleeb had no experience whatsoever.

    This is where Kleeb can't sit back.  It's why he has to go after Johanns head-on.  If I had to pinpoint Kleeb's best moment of the debate, it was when he was asked the greatest danger of Johanns being elected.  Kleeb responded (quite soulfully), "Nothing will change."

    But, right now - because of the experience question - I don't think that's enough.  It's not enough to frame Johanns as a simple agent of the status quo who will be a force of inertia in Washington D.C.  In many ways, that only feeds into Johanns' positioning himself as a conservative voice of moderation. . . who just happens to have boatloads of experience.  That experience has to be made a liability - proof that not only will Johanns fail to correct our problems; he's been part of the problem all along (or, at least, since going to Washington as Ag Secretary).

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    A tie is a win for Johanns (0.00 / 0)
    I agree with your assessment. Johanns is enough of a distinct brand in Nebraska politics that people don't identify him with George W. Bush. Until Kleeb talks about issues like gas prices, grocery prices and jobs in plain language he's going to continue lagging in the polls. I know Kleeb thinks populism is passe, but even the Benator employed against it sucessfully against Ricketts. Remember Wall Street Pete and the Ameritrade layoffs? If Johanns wants to run on his record, go after his inummerable screw ups. Do something different because Kleeb's current course isn't working.

    A tie is a loss for Johanns (0.00 / 0)
    Jon, I agree that Kleeb needs to sharpen his message.  His chief strategist, Barry Rubin, likes to wait until the last minute to start the comparative ads and negative mailings.  Money is always a factor, but waiting exacerbates that problem because the big money donations are based on poll movement (they want to invest wisely, back winners).

    But I disagree that a tie is a bad thing when you are fifteen points behind.  It's a good thing; it closes the gap, gets the underdog a closer look.


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    Negative campaigning (0.00 / 0)
    Many people are concerned about "negative campaigning".  That is nonsense. Kleeb needs one strategy 'ATTACK, ATTACK, ATTACK.  We need to break this mindless phobia about negative campaigning.  Two questions always come to mind.  "Is your opponent perfect?"  "Why are you covering up his imperfections?"
    Nothing was more pathetic than watching the 2004 Democratic Convention and giving Bush a free pass.  This conveyed weakness.
    Scott needs to verbally kick Mikey in the (name the anatomy part of your choosing)now and tomorrow and everyday until November.

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